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SDMoto - San Diego Sport Bike Motorcycle Forum Group/Yamaha R6 03 Low Idle to the point of stalling => Model: Yamaha R6 Year: 2003 Millage: 8700ish Problem: Low idle .5k and then stalls So today my bike had a low idle at neutral less that 1k almost to

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« on: November 12, 2010, 08:42:42 PM »

Model: Yamaha R6
Year: 2003
Millage: 8700ish
Problem: Low idle .5k and then stalls

So today my bike had a low idle at neutral less that 1k almost to .5 and then it would completely stall out. It happened before when I was riding back with Scott in the rain from Eric's maintenance day, but I thought I stalled at the stop light so yeah.

I checked out some forums and people are saying its not the valves but the TPS,

some other guys said
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As well as that the idle adjustment system is exactly the same, with a knurled knobby thing and a cable running to the side of the throttle linkage. The cable is spring loaded so its possible that it could have unwound slightly over the winter or basically stretched a little dropping the idle speed.

but i'm not too experienced with my r6
any advice?

thanks a lot
have a great weekend guys
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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2010, 09:52:28 PM »

Well I had been having this problem with my 07 gsxr600 for a while and for the life of me could not find the answer. So I talked to my mechanic and figured out that I had to get my valves adjusted (I got it done by him b/c this was wayyy over my head). He ended up replacing 10 of the 16 shims and adjusting the other 6 to spec. My bike has 8 intake and 8 exhaust valves, so 2 intake and all 8 exhaust were messed up. But my bike has ~27,000 miles on it and has NEVER had the valves even checked.
Yes stupid on my end...but I just never heard about this type of maintenance and simply kept riding.

Mechanically I'm pretty competent - I DIY all of the following on my gsxr: oil & filter change, air filter change, spark plug replacement, coolant drain, flush, and replacement.

Now to get to your bike:
I was told by my mechanic that valve adjustments need to be done routinely for all sportbikes since it's such a high performance engine (all the high revs) that the shims loose millimeters and it throws everything off.

Typical Valve Adjustment Values (quoted from my mechanic):
Ducati = Every 6k
Suzuki = Every 15k
Yamaha = Every 26k

For this reason here's how we're going to diagnose your problem. I read that you said your idle was 1k almost to 0.5k and then stall out. So normally your bike idles at about 1k? If you look up your manual's idle speed it should give you a range. For Suzuki I'm not remembering exactly but it was about 1200-1600ish rpm. I just looked up on r6-forum http://www.r6-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61170 and a guy said this:

"The idle adjustment screw is on the right hand side of the bike right under the fairing. Basically if you are sitting on the bike, (riding position) it would be right under your knee. Turn it to the right to turn up the idle. Have it idle at about 1,000 RPM. Or maybe try a little lower, and work it up little by little until it can hold steady."

1. So i'd do the same as I first tried on my Suzuki and see if turning the idle a quarter turn clockwise to raise the idle and see if it solves your problem.
2. I forgot to ask you if your bike stalls worse when it starts, cold start (or will it idle on its own?).
3. You should ask yourself with 8700 miles on it when's the last time you did a tune up on it? When was the air filter replaced and ur overdue for your spark plug replacement if you havent ever done it. If your bike can't breathe, then it'll stall also. Is your gas mpg being affected? This is usually a good indication of a bad air filter and/or spark plugs.
4. If all of this fails I'd check to see if your 2003 R6 has secondary butterfly valves by the throttle body and see if they open wide with the air filter pulled off on a cold start.
5. If the secondary throttle bodies move then find out on some forums how to check to see if your TPS is working correctly. You might try throwing the bike in dealer mode (look this up on forums, usually a paperclip connection under the seat) to see if it throws a code letting you know your TPS is bad.
6. If all this fails I'd then start thinking about your valves and getting them adjusted, shims replaced.

Just remember in the end it's totally worth it! You learn so much from researching all this that you end up getting to know your bike really well. A lot of guys on this forum have got tools for you to use if you dont have a garage or tools. Just thought I'd chime in since I know I was frustrated with the problem.

Good luck dude!  
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2010, 08:27:23 PM »

PM me your number and Ill call you so we can meet up. Ill show you how to adjust your idle
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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2010, 09:13:15 PM »

thanks a lot GSXR4LIFE for the info, I'll definitely check up on that, I have a job orientation this whole weekend, so I'll check up on it next week.
But yeah, definitely a great opportunity to get to know my bike more, too bad it had to be when its sad and totally neglected Tongue haha

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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2010, 06:36:01 PM »

Hopefully its nothing too bad.
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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2010, 07:28:46 PM »


Typical Valve Adjustment Values (quoted from my mechanic):
Ducati = Every 6k
Suzuki = Every 15k
Yamaha = Every 26k


Recently talked to a mechanic about my bike and he said it's around every 16k for mine, and it's a Kawi so maybe for Kawis too it's every 16k?

by the way, my idle adjustment knob is to the left, right beneath the gas tank, maybe yours is around the same area? idk.. mines a 06 zzr600 so could be totally different.
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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2010, 07:56:02 PM »


Typical Valve Adjustment Values (quoted from my mechanic):
Ducati = Every 6k
Suzuki = Every 15k
Yamaha = Every 26k


Recently talked to a mechanic about my bike and he said it's around every 16k for mine, and it's a Kawi so maybe for Kawis too it's every 16k?

by the way, my idle adjustment knob is to the left, right beneath the gas tank, maybe yours is around the same area? idk.. mines a 06 zzr600 so could be totally different.

PRetty good experience knowledge here.
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